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20 Doctor Who – The War Games

So you’re planning to conquer the galaxy? Do you have a big villainous beard, treacherous subordinates with slightly smaller villainous beards, nameless minions with pvc uniforms and weird guns? Do you have an air of menacing authority; a bold, inventive, never been done before plan involving fog, mud, designer glasses and pop art wallpaper?

If the answer to all these is a big YES! Then you’re ready to begin. Just make sure that you stop off on the way and get yourself an arch nemesis and your own personal fanfare every time you walk into a room.

I think it’s fair to say that this is a fairly momentous occasion for both Doctor Who (the end of the Sixties, the end of the black and white era, the last Patrick Troughton story) and TimeVault (a journey started back in May 2007, we too have regenerated at least once, staying the same but… different). There have been trying times along the way for the Doctor and for us – but also lots of fun and laughter. Mike and I shall miss the Second Doctor. Nothing in life is perfect, of course, but the sublime Patrick Troughton comes very, very close…

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We’ll see you on January the 13th 2012 when the Doctor begins his exile. Until then, thanks very much for listening, have an amazing Christmas and a wonderful New Year!

6 thoughts on “20 Doctor Who – The War Games

  1. HI GUYS LOVE YOUR TWO AVENGERS PODCASTS BUT I’AM VERY SAD THAT YOU HAVE DONE NO MORE AVENGERS PODCASTS FOR ALONG TIME NOW AND SEE NO MORE ON YOUR COMING SOON LIST.
    THE TWO OF YOU MADE A BIG DEAL THAT THERE WAS NO PODCASTS OF THE SHOW ONLINE SO YOU TWO LOOK TO PUT THAT RIGHT BUT NOW YOU HAVE SEEN TO STOP BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHY.
    SO PLEASE CAN YOU GET BACK TO MORE PODCASTS ON THE SHOW.
    HAVE A HAPPY XMAS AND A GREAT NEW YEAR.

    1. Hi Noel. NO NEED TO SHOUT! 🙂

      We haven’t forgotten The Avengers, however it’s fair to say that they are our least downloaded podcasts! We both love the show and will continue to cover it, however it will take a back seat to the more popular Doctor Who, Hammer and Blake’s 7 shows. Coming up in 2012 we will be looking at Avengers episodes The Girl from AUNTIE, Killer and two others yet to be decided.

      Thanks for listening,
      P

      1. MORNING PAUL AND THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY.
        FIRST OF ALL TO USE CAPS IS NOT TO SHOUT I USE CAPS ALL THE TIME WHEN I TYPE.
        GOOD NEWS ON THE TWO NEW AVENGERS PODCASTS FOR 2012 BUT WE THE FANS NEED MORE PLEASE AND FOR THE TWO AVENGERS EPISODES THAT YOU HAVE NOT DECIDED ON YET IF I COULD PUT IN MY VOTE THE TWO SHOWS WOULD BE THE HOUR THAT NEVER WAS AND THE MORNING AFTER AS I THINK THEY ARE TWO OF THE BEST OUT THERE BUT I DO LOVE THEM ALL.
        ALL THE BEST AND HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS.

  2. I agree with your review of The War Games. A wonderful farewell to a trio that might be my favorite Tardis Team so far (The Doctor, Jamie, Ben and Polly are good, but I never felt that the three companions really clicked – Jamie was the outsider – whereas Jamie and Zoe really clicked). Sadly, having watched Spearhead recently, the introduction of the Third Doctor is a big letdown.

    Also, I am intrigued with this second “regeneration.” It seems significantly different than the first one. The First Doctor started getting weak naturally and regenerated as part of his natural processes. The Second Doctor, however, gets to choose his next body (although he fails to do so). In some sense, it is less an organic change.

  3. Ahhh, here we have reached the end of the Troughtons run as the Doctor and we are faced with a massive 10 part story. My first thoughts were, oh no. Large stories always have the danger of running into so many issues. Fluff. Lots of running around and being captured. We have clearly seen some shorter stories that suffer from these things and yet we get a story that shows the show is perfectly capable of handling such a large run. It joins other long stories that were handled proprly as well. The Daleks’ Master Plan, The Invasion, and The Power of the Daleks are all long stories that could have derailed and been a blemish to the show but turned into gems of the classic series.

    What is most amazing is that this is 10 episodes that has me enthralled. I would have taken notes but I just could not tear myself away from watching the story at any moment. The only time I had any issue with the story was at the very end when the Doctor, Jamie, and Zoe were trying to escape through that odd room on the Time Lords homeworld. What was up with the raised platforms and clouds of vapor from dry ice? Still it hardly ruined the story.

    I have to agree with most everything to commented on in the story. I loved all the actors in the story. No single part felt as if it was just thrown in. Not since the Aztecs has a story had absolutely every single person advancing the story so well. No part, no matter how small, felt unecessary. They each were given the proper place and right ammount of dialouge to keep the story moving. Every single person was at the top of their game and they way they interacted with each other was sheer brilliance.

    From the stories that came before, I have concluded their are three villians that all future writers of the show should look at. They are among the best that have ever appeared.
    1 Tlotoxl, the High Priest of Sacrifice, was one of the best adversaries in the shows history. He was smart and cunning and yet not evil, a rare thing for a villain in Doctor Who. He cared deeply for his people which motivated him to do what he did.
    2 Mavric Chen. Strong, commanding, charismatic. He was a man with a plan, never lost his cool and could stand up to the Daleks.
    3 Tobias Vaughn. What more could be said then he stole the show from the Cybermen. Eliminate them from the story and the Invasion would still have worked. He could have taken on the Doctor and UNIT without blnking an eye.
    Now I can add 2 more villians to the list. The War Chief and the War Lord. All the reasons for adding them have been already said in the podcast.

    Another great thing about the story was all the little gadgets used. I loved the hypno items and the telepathic cube and the sidrats. They were all key parts to the story and used with just the right care.

    As for the Time Lords in the last episode. I know you had some concerns about them but I found nothing wrong with them. They came off as mysterious and powerful. Your concern about the power they wielded I simply chalked up to advanced technology they had at their disposal. I feel they were creating the illusion of vast power with that technology. Somewhere a Timelord in another room was using a machine to create what they saw. It was like a magician preforming. You direct the audience to watch one thing when you really are carrying out the trick while they are looking the other way. The Timelords were an old race and I suspect they did such things to disuade others from chalenging them. Then again this is only a possible explanation to retcon the very first time they appear.

    The very last thing I will ask, in this lengthy post, was the forced change in the Doctor’s appearance a regeneration? Sure the term was not yet used but does it qualify as a true regeneration? It could possibly argued it is not but then we really don’t know how the Timelords did this. Will this be used to forstall the ‘end’ of the show in the same way Tenant kept from changing at the end of the 4th series of new who? It could be a cheat but only time will tell.

    1. That last point is very interesting, however in The Five Doctors when the First Doctor asks the Fifth how many regenerations he’s on, he gets the reply: “Fourth”. That pretty much seals the deal I think.

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